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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 14:37:00 -
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As the servers and these forums are held in England a strong case could be made for the inforcement of EU law in regards to anti-discrimination
So
Handbook on European non-discrimination law wrote:
3.5.2.
Political participation: freedom of expression, assembly and association, and free elections
one of the main goals of the Council of Europe is the promotion of democracy.
This is reflected in many of the rights in the ECHR which facilitate the promotion
of political participation. While EU law confers a limited range of rights in this
respect (in particular the right for EU nationals to vote in municipal elections and
European parliament elections), the ECHR contains broader guarantees creating not
only a right to vote and stand in elections, but also flanking rights of freedom of
expression and the right to freedom of assembly and association.
Example: in the case of B-àczkowski and Others v. Poland, discussed above, the
refusal of permission to hold a march to raise awareness about sexual orientation discrimination, coupled with publicly made homophobic remarks of the mayor, amounted to a violation of the right to freedom of assembly (Article 11)
together with Article 14.
The right to freedom of association has also been taken to include protection
for the formation of political parties, which the ECtHR has accorded a high level
of protection against interference.
So preventing someone from standing on the basis of their political beliefs would frankly just get CCP sued with a high probability of losing.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 17:44:00 -
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Khanh'rhh wrote:DarthNefarius wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Handbook on European non-discrimination law wrote:
3.5.2.
Political participation: freedom of expression, assembly and association, and free elections
one of the main goals of the Council of Europe is the promotion of democracy.
This is reflected in many of the rights in the ECHR which facilitate the promotion
of political participation. While EU law confers a limited range of rights in this
respect (in particular the right for EU nationals to vote in municipal elections and
European parliament elections), the ECHR contains broader guarantees creating not
only a right to vote and stand in elections, but also flanking rights of freedom of
expression and the right to freedom of assembly and association.
Example: in the case of B-àczkowski and Others v. Poland, discussed above, the
refusal of permission to hold a march to raise awareness about sexual orientation discrimination, coupled with publicly made homophobic remarks of the mayor, amounted to a violation of the right to freedom of assembly (Article 11)
together with Article 14.
The right to freedom of association has also been taken to include protection
for the formation of political parties, which the ECtHR has accorded a high level
of protection against interference.
So preventing someone from standing on the basis of their political beliefs would frankly just get CCP sued with a high probability of losing. If that is true about EU & political beliefs how come you can still get thrown in jail in Germany for giving the old Hitlergru+ƒ salute? EDIT: how come in the OP Neo-**** is not censored & in mine it is? Because the law he is quoting specificly refers to government intervention in political office. Basically, he's ~internet lawyering~ and getting it wrong. For instance, in the UK, students have been expelled for giving the Hit ler salute in schools. Surely not, according to Frying Doom!
Ok once again on a different thread
This is a treaty, a treaty is an article signed by a countries government that means that it will sculpt its laws to those that follow the treaty.
Easy example you cannot remain a signatory of the Non-nuclear proliferation treaty if you sign it and then write a law that says "We will give plutonium to any countries that pay us more than 10 Million dollars.
subsequently any breach by an EU country can cause the case to be handled be EU courts, for breaches of that treaty.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 17:52:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:frying doom if ccp was unable to kick someone off the csm because ~freedom of expression rights~ or w/e mittani'd still be [s]chairman[s/]
e: on the csm* he resigned as chair irrc it doesn't make a difference anyway
Freedom of speech does not include what was done their joking or not, plus then it entered EULA. As it was not a section covered by any law governing his religious or political beliefs.
He resigned from CSM5 and was excluded from being able to be a member of CSM 6.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Frying Doom wrote:This is a treaty, a treaty is an article signed by a countries government that means that it will sculpt its laws to those that follow the treaty. GǪand CCP is not a country and does not have any laws. It is pretty much entirely free to pick whom among its voluntary customers is their outwards face. Quote:subsequently any breach by an EU country can cause the case to be handled be EU courts, for breaches of that treaty. GǪwhich means CCP can't even breach it, much less be hauled off to the EU courts. CCP is a private entity. Freedom of speech does not apply.
Tippia was not talking freedom of speech, and CCP must be a lucky company as apparently as it is not a country it does not have to follow any laws.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:12:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:this is so stupid i can't even make sentences
Fair enough you feel that people should not have the right of political association.
now personally I missed this guys specific hate speech.
Nor would I defend someone right to incite violence, but I would defend someones right to political association.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:14:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Tippia was not talking freedom of speech, Indeed I wasn't. I was talking about companies and how they differ from governments, but others most certainly were talking about freedom of speech. Not that freedom of association is any different. Quote:and CCP must be a lucky company as apparently as it is not a country it does not have to follow any laws. Sure it does. It just doesn't have to follow the laws that regulate what laws governments are allowed to make and what policies they are allowed to hold, which is what the treaty is about. The private entity CCP not wanting to be represented by a neonazi is a vastly different matter from the government of [whatever] now allowing people to join certain associations or movements.
Actually it more depends on labor laws as to how voluntary employees are considered. And then as to whether being a Neo-**** is considered a political party or a belief system.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:24:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:this is so stupid i can't even make sentences Fair enough you feel that people should not have the right of political association. now personally I missed this guys specific hate speech. Nor would I defend someone right to incite violence, but I would defend someones right to political association. this isn't about that. try again.
Ok so you would like CCP to discriminate against him for his opinions and political association.
So what would you say thats about? or is this another their skin isn't white so their not human argument?
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:51:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:this is so stupid i can't even make sentences Fair enough you feel that people should not have the right of political association. now personally I missed this guys specific hate speech. Nor would I defend someone right to incite violence, but I would defend someones right to political association. this isn't about that. try again. Ok so you would like CCP to discriminate against him for his opinions and political association. So what would you say thats about? or is this another their skin isn't white so their not human argument? YOU CAN NOT SERIOUSLY BE THIS THICK DISCRIMINATION MEANS PREJUDICE
Pretty close
But I will make this easy.
Don't discriminate against him for being a member of a political organisation.
Troll him because of what he says.
That is all I have been saying.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 18:59:00 -
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Thomas Hurt wrote:Frying Doom wrote:
Don't discriminate against him for being a member of a political organisation.
At this point I'm really not sure if you guys know who the Naz is were...
Were is different to are, and they are existent in some countries as a political party.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.28 19:11:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:This thread should be, and probably will be locked soon.
I think we all hope so.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.03.29 04:32:00 -
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ISDs please take this thread around the back of the barn and blow its head off please.
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